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		<title>Relationships: Joints and Ligaments</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[For the last two years I&#8217;ve been spending time with a group a of Indianapolis pastors, facilitated by Loving Accurately Ministries. They have a weekly prayer meeting for pastors and meet monthly at the Broadripple Brewpub. I&#8217;ve learned so much from these guys, especially the guys that lead it &#8211; Geoff Wybrow, Jim Falk, and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the last two years I&#8217;ve been spending time with a group a of Indianapolis pastors, facilitated by <a href="http://laminc.org/">Loving Accurately Ministries</a>.  They have a weekly prayer meeting for pastors and meet monthly at the Broadripple Brewpub.  I&#8217;ve learned so much from these guys, especially the guys that lead it &#8211; Geoff Wybrow, Jim Falk, and Steve Freeman &#8211; about what it means to love people well.</p>
<p>One of the principles I&#8217;ve learned from them is things work better when relationships lead the way.  There are people at that table that I wouldn&#8217;t agree with about a lot of things, theologically or organizationally, but because we started with prayer and relationship it&#8217;s different, because there is something powerful that happens when you see someone&#8217;s heart and his (or her) passion and his love for Jesus.</p>
<p>The interesting thing is that a lot of times at cross-denominational gatherings like that, there&#8217;s a shallowness and a sense of compromising issues we&#8217;re passionate about in order not to offend.  What I&#8217;ve seen, though, is that if you start with a relationship, there&#8217;s actually room to have those discussions and disagree heartily and healthily &#8211; there&#8217;s room for &#8220;iron sharpens iron,&#8221; for stretching each other.  The effect that I&#8217;ve sensed is that there is actually a sense of going higher and farther together instead of watering down.</p>
<p>Paul also refers to Jesus&#8217;s whole body (i.e. the Church) being held together by &#8220;every joint and supporting ligament,&#8221; which I&#8217;m coming to think means the relationships that connect us.  I think that&#8217;s how it was made to function.  If you don&#8217;t have <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ligament">ligaments</a>, you either have disconnection or a LOT of pain (I&#8217;m told bone-on-bone in joints is excruciating).  The spirit of religion, then, is the &#8220;arthritis&#8221; of the church &#8211; going after the joints to keep the whole body from functioning.</p>
<p>This is also one of the key values we are taking with us to N.Ireland.  We want to everything we do to stem from loving others well &#8211; as Paul says: &#8220;deeply, from the heart.&#8221;  It&#8217;s the only way for us to be &#8220;known by our love.&#8221;</p>
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